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I was gonna summarize this, but I need a good mini rant.

So I think in one of my previous journals, I mentioned I was having some issues with the guy who hired me to do his book illustrations. Basically, I had done 14 illustrations for the childrens book he wrote, but had given him a completely wrong price estimate (300$ for ALL the illustrations, wth was I thinking). So I told him that I was sorry, but I couldn't sell my work for so little. Even though they had already been completed. So I asked for a more proper illustration fee (no royalties, and for full rights D: ) and there was some arguing and hissy fitting and I honestly would have rather let them go unused, and told him he could go pay some illustration contract house the same amount I was asking for work of lesser quality. SO finally we got it all settled and agreed upon and everything seemed.. BETTER.

So blahblah, sending all the files to the publishing house. He emails asking if they had all been sent.. And I hesitantly said yes. SO glad this ordeal was finally over.

And then.. I didn't hear a THING from him for TWO MONTHS after saying that the files were all sent. I of course, was concerned, sent a couple emails over those couple of months asking about the progress, and eventually the payment, which I was really looking forward too. He hadn't said a word to me OR my mother (she bought her great danes from him, so they kept in touch). Obviously He was ripping me off right?

Apparently not?!?
So I get this pissed off email from him, yes, a whole two months later after not a SINGLE email or call, saying he had been in the hospital all that time and couldn't let me know, and he was pissed at ME for sending him emails about the the payment. Shame on me for not knowing these things, and pff. Like you cant call or email in a hospital.

Anyways. He did his pissy little rant, said the book was already published and for sale and that the check was on its way.

Morals of this story, relationships between an author and illustrator are very important, and getting stuck working with someone who doesn't understand anything about what you do or how to communicate properly will usually result in a bad experience. Don't undersell your artwork, it takes a longass time to do, and you should be paid accordingly. And most importantly, research your freakin rights as an artist, so you don't get some janky, suspicious looking contract to sign.

OI. I'm SO glad it's all over and i'm actually going to get paid though. I know a lot of people don't get so lucky with their first illustration experience.  I'm assuming I dont even get a free copy of the book, so I'm not going to link to it just yet. But somewhere out there, Colonel art is in book form!

AND NOW. I'm going to just start writing and illustrating my own childrens books in my spare time, because I hate people and I can do a better job by myself C: Nyah.

ALTHOUGH UGH. I am not an illustrator. So what the heck am I even doing childrens books for. MUST.. ANIMATE..
I feel so bad, its been like.. almost a year since I touched Gatordog :/ Its ssooo close, just needs another few months of revisions and then I'm gonna pay some minions to clean it up and color and fjkls;jfkls. So depressing!

I've been having an amazing time poking around and living off commissions, which is incredible because student loans have the strength to snap a human neck at any moment. But this really sucks :/ So sick of drawing dogs. Time to get back into animation, cause I realizeddd thats what I really love doing! And storyboarding.. AWH MAN. Today was definitely one of those.. "what the hell am I doing with my life" sort of days. Its so depressing D: There's SO much I want to do, so many projects and films and bleh. Where do you even start?

Going to get my portfolio and reel tidied up and sent around hopefully soon, might have some of you animation savvy DA folk help me polish it of, if anyone is interested :o Gotta gets me a job!

And there you have it! A tiny update. Yep. Carryon.

Dog/sim art account: :iconcolonels-corner:
Random gatordog account: :icongatordog:
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TobiasAmaranth Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2012
So many comments, I can't really contribute anything extra. But yay for animation, I'm still happy with the piece you did for me and, while I do wish they could have been fully complete, I'm thankful that you worked with me at all. You've gotten really popular and I can only smile that you took an interest in my idea. ^_^
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colonel-strawberry Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2012
You are like the most magically timed person, I was JUST thinking about those animations I did. err.. attempted. I think I might definitely have to give it another try though!
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TobiasAmaranth Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2012
Magical timing, eh? XD I do sometimes have luck like that. Just to confirm it with my memory but I -did- actually send you a giant box of magic commons and possibly even some uncommons, yes?

I still find the concept of frame reuse to be highly entertaining. With selective tweaks / variations and branching paths, it's like a game inside of a fixed animation. |D Glad you enjoy the subject matter, as well. And incomplete or not, I still like them. *smiles*
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sanctuary-meadow Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Well most of that sounded pretty good, stressful and annoying but good! It's good to find what it is you really want in life, or what you think you want. I find it hard to know anything that I really want. I feel I live quite aimlessly and day to day.
But I'm glad you have sorted a well detailed goal! and I know you could reach it!

It would be cool to get a copy of your illustrative book!!!!

Keep at it Serene! ♥ :hug:

Best line:
"AND NOW. I'm going to just start writing and illustrating my own childrens books in my spare time, because I hate people and I can do a better job by myself C: Nyah."
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colonel-strawberry Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2012
Haha definitely what I think I want, but yepp, anything is possible, I guess!
Thanks!

:D
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sanctuary-meadow Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
:hug: Welcome!
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Paws-for-a-Moment Featured By Owner Nov 18, 2012
If I may: I would think being in the hospital counts for something. It's a stressful experience period, so heading home and seeing e-mails of "progress," "progress," "progress" most likely set him off. He isn't in the right dumping on you, but he probably wasn't thinking rationally. He might not have had access to phone or e-mail either. For all anyone knew he could have been knocking on death's door.

From this experience, there was an anomaly not even normal in the business world. My first animation job I wasn't able to work on payment because Superstorm Sandy knocked power from my house for six days. I don't think my client knew if anything happened to me, but she was pretty patient and I eventually got paid. Just saying for that specific event (hospital) there should be a little understanding toward the client. I guess I'm looking at it from a different perspective.
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colonel-strawberry Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2012
Oh I'm well aware, but I also know his publlishing house had contact with him, so he wasnt without any form of communication, and he could have mentioned that he'd be out in the hospital, as it was a planned surgery. In any case, its over now, and I hopefully wont have to deal with that anymore.
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MottoMadness Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
That's cool to hear your art is out there in some book! But he sounds like such a jerk ;; Ugh, I would hate to deal with that, glad it's over!
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LiimLsan Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2012  Student Filmographer
Everyone knows that cell phones give you cancer. Why would they allow one in a hospital then?
But yeah, fucks to him for acting like you were in the wrong for trying to goddamn contact him.
And seriously, do the people who use those wage scales ever draw? Iuppiter! Do they think the mark of an artist is how fast she can shit it out? Have they ever actually tried working like that on that wage scale? FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, MORONS! It's "Ars Longa, Vita Brevis" for a goddamn reason.

The fact that I completed two sequences from scratch this morning could mean less that I'm fast and more that I'm trying to be intentionally a little too punk (Shrinking characters, background wobbles, vague lines, Chiniquy overdose). I'm wishing you all the luck for the Gatordog scenes. (Hey, you ever tried that "12 a day" thing? Would that help?)

I might need some spare cash in college... if I have a tablet or something inkworthy I may offer to help out on the Gatordog end. ^^ The hand-drawn animation system was based 90% on [link] via Bray, and requires a few creative jobs and a steady, large supply of underlings, made for maximum studio efficiency. Now we both love the medium for what it can do and what's been done before, but let's not kid the unfortunate need for assorted morlocks and underlings. (Nota bene that in the countries with strong unions, hand-drawn usually depends on subsidies, and the absence of subsidies in that case is death for the industry without 1990s profits.)
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DTKinetic Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Well, I'm glad it looks like it worked out. I'm in college, and I know contacting people is very often more than a challenge than it should ever have to be, between both friends and professional people. And I'm in the process of looking for a publisher who would be interested in my short stories and I feel like I have a lot of ropes to learn before I get started on what is really a side project.
But anyway, hope you continue to progress and move forwards :thumbsup:
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maria-mar Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012
Hun, i'm working on a children's book atm, my first... 30 illustrations for 300 euros. It's really a very small pay :S
But i was lucky enough to get an amazingly nice author! We got along just fine and actually chat every day. She's writing more books and wants me to illustrate them all (hopefully she'll be able to offer a better pay). And i'm really loving doing it! Ahah we're the opposite, my studies were focused on animation but i realized i actually prefer making illustration! :P

Anyway, can't wait to see your book!
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colonel-strawberry Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012
It does stink :( But hey, i'd rather get paid less and work with a decent human than have to deal with crazy people.
Thats awesome though! And yeah, at least if its a series you could ask for royalties C:
Haha well I have a degree for animation, but somehow illustration jobs pop up. Its crazy! I love doing both though so it works out. :)
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Goku-san Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
I agree. Contact between both the artist and the commissioner from both ends is important. But recently I was told otherwise. That the person shouldn't have to contact me because they paid real money.

It's stuff like this that makes me wonder why artists should bother doing art for other people. :/
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colonel-strawberry Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012
Its like any relationship, if theres no trust or ground to stand on it can get pretty iffy.

its certainly made me wonder why I would ever work with someone XD
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Dr-Aim Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012  Student General Artist
huuuh wooow that's an experience I'm not really willing to make, but good that you get paid in the end. but you should totally get free books, you're one of the authors, damnit.
good luck for your next works though !
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colonel-strawberry Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012
I know! haha thank you!
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Dr-Aim Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012  Student General Artist
you're welcome !
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moonfrogflying Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Big hugs...sound like you need them, good luck with all you do!
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colonel-strawberry Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012
<3
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RachelCurtis Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012  Professional General Artist
Aww, that sounds really awful. It is too bad when stuff works out like that (though I am thankful that I have spent most of my own time working in studios?) so haven't had to deal with too much of that. Get out there, do those children's books, your style would definitely suit it, but if you're more inclined to animation, well, use the children's books to keep sane yeah?

<3
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colonel-strawberry Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012
Studio environment sounds awesome and is my next goal, although I do like working from home. I definitely want to try my own childrens books though :)
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queen-emra Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Ahh that's too bad your first illustrating experience was such a crapshoot. At least it turned out generally okay in the end!
I hate those days where it seems like drawing dogs is going to suck up your whole life, but personally I'm still in my teens so I have several years until that becomes a real problem for me lol. Good luck though, I love your work and I think it'd be great to see it in stores! Though I have no clue what FP's going to do with out you. The art community might either boom or wither, haha.
Children's books would be cool, though I thought I might suggest to you the idea of making comics? I love the pages you've done for Irvings Deeds and you seem to be really good at it! You have some very cute character ideas already, might be fun to develop them that way. Anchor in a comic form, that would be awesome! x) Thought I might just put that idea out there for you, though don't feel like you have to listen to my advice lol. I have no clue what I'm talking about. |D Personally I hate having to redraw panels, lol.
Good luck with the animations, I'm sure you'll have no problem getting a job with talent like yours! ^^
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colonel-strawberry Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012
Meh! Any experience is a good one, in the end. Thankfully it really WAS good. Moneyyy.

Do you want to do art as a career then?

And I'd love to do comics, but I cant write them worth a crud XD I'd rather try animated shorts! Equally hard. oh gosh. Either way, i'm sure i'll figure something out. Thanks!
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queen-emra Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Haha, that's true!

I'm not really sure, it would be pretty cool to do something artistic professionally but until I figure out what my passion is and if I'm any good at it I haven't decided. cx

Yeah both sound as challenging as the other, haha. Personally I don't think I'd be able to come up with anything 'punny' enough for a comic. c;
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Rinaluff Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012
Wtf at that excuse. Sounds like he was trying to rip you off and finally realized you weren't going to quietly wait to be paid for all eternity. :P I'm glad it's all sorted out! Good luck with your stuff <3
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colonel-strawberry Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012
Oh hell yeah, he was so mad that I was asking the proper price XD Thanks!
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rebeccadi Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Student Photographer
Uh. The last time I was in a hospital I was able to use my phone, and my laptop (read: I COULD INTERNET). So I feel like that excuse is BS. I'm glad everything worked out fine in the end though :) Hooray for learning experiences!
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colonel-strawberry Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012
Oh for sure! Woo!
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GuephRen Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Student General Artist
It's good hearing from you!

Though it's bad that you were stuck with that kind of experience the first time you worked as an illustrator, it just goes to show how much that work can go unappreciated. Specially from people who don't take time to draw illustrating might look like a pastime that doesn't even need to be paid for. Creative work in genearl is really hard to make a living of because, one, many people are doing it so competition is hard, and two, many people don't know how to value it. I haven't had a job yet but I hope that I won't end up like that with my first one.

Illustrating is so much fun!


I can't wait to see Gatordog in action :) Hope you are doing good!
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colonel-strawberry Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012
:D

Its alright, I learned a lot from it, especially who has my back and who doesnt. It drives me crazy when people take art for granted. I'll keep on illustrating, thats for sure!

:) Thanks, you too!
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zonkey Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I'm glad you straightened out the book and will get paid fairly.
It sounds to me that you really want to be a story teller of sorts. Since everything you are saying you want to do is involved with story telling. Animation, story-boarding and children's books all need a good plot/story to be successful. It sounds like you have learned a lot, and I wish you Good luck with your future endeavours.
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colonel-strawberry Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012
I'd definitely love to be a story boarder, i'm already pretty good at it, but I'd have to do a ton of studying to really make it a career. Thanks though!
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CaliberArts Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
Two nights ago was my panicked "what the hell am I doing with my life" night haha. Though admittedly I'm in a better position than you, I'm only a college sophomore, but STILL both my plans for majors (studio art and english) have sort of lost interest for me. I mean, I still love them both, but more as hobbies than careers.

On the other hand, I've been strongly considering film and/or animations. So I was wondering, how is it like being an animation student? It seems like it might be stressful but fun. I've always loved doing little animations on my own (the hard way through photoshop haha) but it's so much fun! I just have no idea the process of schooling I have to go through... my college doesn't offer a degree in animation or anything.

ANYWAY... sorry you've been having a tough time! I'm glad at least that it worked out for you eventually. c': I hope you find some time to do the kind of stuff you really love!!
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colonel-strawberry Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012
Haha, glad i'm not the only one!
And mehh, everyone kind of fights with what they really want to do, just enjoy it, and eventually you'll fall into a position you're happy with!

Animation is just that, stressful but fun. Its always WAY more work than it looks to watch some happy little character jump around on screen, but I love the heck out of it so it's never something that would scare me away just because of the workload.

No biggie though! I'm always doing what I love, its the people aspect that usually blows. THATS LIFE, FOLKS C:
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CaliberArts Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
Hmm... well, if I get the chance, I'd love to at least spend some time studying animation in a university. At least, animation of some sort haha. It seems like something I wouldn't mind pursuing as a career later in life. ;) Thanks for the info! And I'm glad that you're always doing what you love, that's the most important thing... keep it up!
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xxVidaxx Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012
"what the hell am I doing with my life"
I have those moments at least once a day for the last few months.
Ahh, I feel so stressed thinking about so many things I need money for, like moving soon ;_;

BUT I'm glad that you didn't get ripped off, and of course you're not at all at fault for not knowing.
I woulda done the exact same thing if a client didn't pay me within a few days haha.
I wanna see this book though! P;
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colonel-strawberry Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012
Haha yeep. Money is always such a horrible factor into what I do, but also a good motivator I guess. Im lucky enough not to pay rent right now though, once that starts up I'll definitely be screwed XD

Heck yeah! I'll post the link.. eventually ;)
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Jayshr Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012   General Artist
D: Yeesh, that sounds terrible... >.< Seems like he would have said "oh hey, can you send this check to soandso? I don't want to keep her waiting" Or asked someone to send you a notice from the hospital. 8C

Maybe we should have a portfolio/reel group or summfin
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colonel-strawberry Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012
Well apparently he sent it while he was in the hospital, but it was sent back? but again, NO idea he was even in the hospital so I just thought he was ripping me off. XD

That would be amazing!
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Jayshr Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2012   General Artist
Yesss less dooeeeeeet >:3 I'm gonna try getting involved on ConceptArt.org too XD
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colonel-strawberry Featured By Owner Nov 14, 2012
Yeah! I can never figure out conceptart though XD So I end up leaving as fast as I return there. haha.
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Mutedmirth Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Ah glad you're getting the money! Least you can put that under "Remember not to undersell myself"

Ugh, I need to get my butt into gear and make my showreel. Only got last year's uni animation and some animal roughs, but work and uni's been busy x_x I hope you post some of your animation reel on here ^^ or link it. I like seeing other people's showreels, especially if they concentrate on animals so I can see where I can start.
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colonel-strawberry Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012
OH yeah, big time!

I hateee putting together reels, but its so easy! I'm missing a bunch of my old work though, which stinks.. :/ Mine is pretty animal based, er well. gatordog based right now, since that was my most recent work.
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fujy50 Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012
This sounds like what happened to a friend of mine when she did a children's book for someone.... Just hope that it wasn't the same guy.... (only reason i am saying is because I know you are from michigan too)
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colonel-strawberry Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012
I think this was his first book, so probably not. But that sucks D:
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fujy50 Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012
It's okay and I just wanted to make sure. I hope you end up getting your free copy!
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AvilikWolf Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Awe I'm sorry that guy was such a jerk. You deserve much more than that. :]

I know how you feel about not knowing what exactly you want to do with your life. I for one love my job and what I do but I know I may or may not be doing it for the rest of my life but its a high chance I'll stay a groomer.
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colonel-strawberry Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012
<3!!
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AvilikWolf Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
:) just member that your awesome
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